Woot! Wordpress 2.5... Major weirdness. So much is different.
But anyway! There's a thread on the Stargate Worlds forums where two people (myself a third) are in a discussion (that I sense is slowly degenerating into a flame-fest) on the differences in styles people play games in, and how we should treat each other. I will try to keep descriptions civil, but I will be telling it like I see it: One side of the spectrum promotes the use of special flags that will tell people that the player is a roleplayer, meaning that he is playing the game like he is experiencing the content as if he were there. There is no "Internet", there are no "bugs". He "goes through the Stargate to P3R-233" instead of "loading the Goa'uld outpost zone". This first side of the issue wants a flag so other people will know that he's a roleplayer and to conduct themselves accordingly... Meaning, please don't talk about anything that you wouldn't talk about if you were actually living the game. It breaks immersion and the mood of what the roleplayer is trying to accomplish, and it's just plain rude. That's the first side. The other side of the spectrum was incredibly quick to pull out the "I'm paying for my game, so you have absolutely no right to tell me how I should play" and that they can do whatever they want and anyone who doesn't like it can just ignore them, but has no right to complain or voice opinions. And I'm going to say right now that for all the talk about not forcing someone to play the game a certain way, he seems awfully closed to the idea that his is not the only way to approach this matter. That alone makes it hard for me to treat him seriously.
This, I think, personally, is a whole side effect to "relative morality". Where everyone is doing what they think is okay, and nobody can tell them what to do because of it. This, of course, is where I am directly opposed. Being a roleplayer, I naturally side with the first argument. I've played games where people just don't care about the impact they have on other people, and they'll do whatever they want without a care for what happens to other people. This, I have to say, goes both ways. Sometimes, you simply have to go "Out of Character" and talk to someone like you would in real life... Some people just don't understand what you're saying and if you intentionally try to confuse them, then you're no better than they are, and I've witnessed this happen, so I'm not saying one side is particularly better than the other, because each side has their fringe weirdos. As I say, an outspoken minority is heard more than a silent majority. While the majority of people go about their own business, there can always be just one who makes himself seen and some people tend to think that he's the only one out there.
It seems that the running example is that there's a group of roleplayers minding their own business, and then someone comes up and yells "lolz" at them. Obviously not roleplaying and, in my opinion, obviously trying to be obnoxious. Do the roleplayers have a right to complain about this action, or does the "lolz" man have the right to do that without anyone telling him otherwise? As a roleplayer, I think it's painfully obvious when someone is roleplaying. They tend to type better... They tend to use emotes (even custom /me ones)... They just tend to be more reserved and calculating than all the masses of busy hardcore raiders who chug along saying "omg I just pwned that n00b in the BGs and I got this leet chest piece from the honor!" Anyone who honestly hasn't noticed roleplayers, I'm going to say, probably doesn't make a habit of running up to people and yelling "lolz", either. In fact, someone who doesn't see roleplayers probably isn't paying attention to their surroundings enough to even begin to interact... So the entire point is moot.
At about this time, the arguments start winding up being insults and I make a parting comment based on my observations. The first side was the first to make a post regarding this problem, and the second made a post in response that took issue with things that shouldn't have made an issue. The second side produced the notion that since everyone is a paying subscriber, that they can play however they want. Wrong. We already know that there are game rules; codes of conduct and certain policies that are enforced to give some semblance of sanity to the realm. We can not do whatever we want. We get warnings to harassing people, we get banned for using bots and buying money... There are rules. Just because we pay doesn't mean we can do whatever we want. Now... As for things that aren't spelled out in the rules?
This, I think, is the missing key to this whole argument. Some games provide separate servers specifically designed for roleplayers that sport a set of rules that help prevent the griefing of roleplayers. In World of Warcraft, for example, there is a rule against names that you wouldn't see in the game world itself. Say... A human mage with the name of "PwnerCake". Yeah... See, what kind of parent would name their beloved child PwnerCake? That would clearly be against the rules and should be enforced and... Everyone in the realm would have the right, as dictated by the rules, to complain about it and report it. The person with that name is a paying customer, yes, but he is breaking the rules and does not have the right to do that. The rules just so happen to limit the name he can pick! If he doesn't like the rules, he does not have a right to complain against them, and is free to choose a Normal realm that doesn't have these rules enforced.
I made a couple of posts to try to put a foundation to some of the arguments, but, as you can see, I am completely ignored, and they go on poking at each other with sharp sticks. I contend that if a roleplayer is playing on a normal realm that does not have rules pertaining to names, then he has no right to complain about a name such as "PwnerCake", because it's specifically allowed. Likewise, nobody has the right to complain about the roleplayer for roleplaying, because there are no rules specifically disallowing roleplaying! It's up to you humans to find a way to peacefully coexist... But... Humans can barely do that in real life... How much less so with the anonymity of the internet, eh? However...
I think that running up to random people and yelling "lolz" can and does fall under the rules of harassment. Personally, I subscribe to the one-strike rule. I'll let you make the mistake of running up to me and yelling "lolz" because, frankly, you probably didn't know if I was a roleplayer or that I'd take offense, and, even if you did mean it to be offensive, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. If you were making an honest mistake, you would realize that I don't want to interact that way. If you were being offensive, well... You would probably yell it again, and then you'd be harassing by any definition of the term. But! For something with, say... Names. There are rules against harassing, but there are no rules about names. So if someone in Stargate Worlds runs up to me with the name of MegaBlasterAsgardMan and wants me to do something for him, I wouldn't have the right to say "your name is wrong, you need to change that" because, frankly, the name is okay as far as Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment is concerned. I might not like the name, and I would think that if someone intentionally picked a name like that, they're trying to get attention, but as far as actually ordering them to change it? Yes, I agree... That would make me condescending.
You can read the thread and see if you come to the same conclusions, and I hope that makes my stance a little clearer, in case... You know... You actually found my site from SGW forums and decided to read this... Which I doubt would happen, because I don't advertise my website! But, uhm... Yeah... Once again, my hobby of politics shows itself once again by giving me some incredibly deep insight into what... Could probably have easily done without! (Although it gave me a chance to test Wordpress 2.5... That's a plus!)